Why do bandsaw blades for metal break? The most common problems

A bandsaw blade for metal most often cracks when its back edge rests against the guides or the wheel flange. Other causes include heavy feed pressure, the wrong tooth pitch and over-tensioning. Where the crack starts usually tells you what caused it. We also cover stripped and dull teeth and crooked or rough cuts.

Where a bandsaw blade for metal cracks: from the back edge, from the gullet, at the weld, fine cracks along the blade, and stripped teeth
Where a bandsaw blade for metal cracks: from the back edge, from the gullet, at the weld, fine cracks along the blade, and stripped teeth

Diagnosis

Where did the blade crack? Quick diagnosis

Look at where the crack starts. Its location usually reveals the cause.

1From the back edgeThe back-up guides or the wheel flange press on the blade even when it runs idle. The back edge is often peened and sharp. Heavy feed pressure adds to the problem. → adjust the guides
2From the gulletGuides pinching the blade, heavy feed pressure, a fine pitch on solid material, a dull blade, over-tensioning or a blade too thick for the saw's wheels. → feed pressure and pitch · tension
3At the weldIt may be a faulty weld, but it can also be over-tensioning or a blade at the end of its service life. → weld warranty
4Many fine cracks along the bladeThe blade is fatigued: over-tensioned, too thick for the saw's wheels, or twisting too much between the wheel and the guides. Stop using a cracked blade, as it can snap in the cut. → tension · blade thickness
5Blade intact, but teeth missingThe pitch does not suit the cross-section, the feed pressure is too high, or the workpiece moves in the vice. → tooth stripping

Over-tension test: lay the cracked blade on a flat surface with its outer face down (the face that did not sit on the wheel). If it lies flat, the tension was fine. If the ends lift by more than 10 mm, or you cannot lay the blade flat at all, it was over-tensioned. On a saw with small wheels, it can also mean the blade is too thick for the wheels.

Causes

Most common causes of cracking and how to fix them

On every revolution, the blade bends around the wheels twice and straightens out twice. Anything that puts extra stress on it shortens its service life. We list the causes by how often we see them on our customers' blades.

1 mm
gap between the back edge and the wheel flange
0.5–1 mm
gap between the blade and the back-up guides, saw at rest
130–150 N/mm²
tension for a 13 × 0.65 mm blade
4–24
teeth in the cut on solid material, ideally 12

The guides or wheel flange press on the back edge

very often

If the back edge of the blade rests against the back-up guides or the wheel flange (the raised rim of the wheel) even when running idle, it gets peened on every revolution, hardens and starts to crack. The back edge then feels sharp and looks battered. This is the most common cause we see on cracked blades.

Do all guide and wheel checks with the saw unplugged, and turn the wheels by hand.

✓With the saw at rest, leave a 0.5–1 mm gap between the back edge of the blade and the back-up guides. The blade should only bear against them in the cut.
✓Between the back edge of the blade and the wheel flange, leave a gap about the thickness of a fingernail, roughly 1 mm. Test: slip a piece of paper between the back edge and the flange and turn the wheel. The paper must pass through without being cut.
✓Set the side guides close to the blade, but without pressure. They must not touch the teeth. The guide bearings must turn freely.
✓Replace worn bearings and carbide inserts. Lengthwise score marks or polished patches on the sides of the blade show that the guides are rubbing or pinching it.
✓To check the guides, use a 30–40 cm offcut of blade: with no blade on the saw, it should sit square between the guides without wobbling, yet still slide forwards and backwards. Just ask and we will pack an offcut with your order free of charge.

Heavy feed pressure or the wrong tooth pitch

sometimes

With heavy feed pressure and a fine pitch on solid material, the gullets pack with chips. The tooth cannot clear them in time and takes a blow on its next bite, so cracks start from the gullets. Thin-walled sections are the opposite case: with a coarse pitch, too few teeth are in the cut and the teeth break off.

✓On solid material, choose a pitch that puts about 12 teeth in the cut, at least 4 and no more than 24.
✓On tubes and sections, the distance between tooth tips should roughly match the wall thickness.
✓Feed pressure should be smooth and steady. If the blade rubs or bogs down, reduce the feed pressure, increase the blade speed or choose a coarser pitch.

Choose the pitch for your cross-section in the article How to choose a bandsaw blade for metal, and the speed for your material in Bandsaw cutting speed for metal.

Misaligned wheels, play or worn saw parts

sometimes

If the blade drifts sideways on the wheels, the guides keep twisting it back, which stresses it. Check that:

●both wheels are in line once the blade is tensioned and are not tilted, for example because of a bent shaft or a badly seated wheel,
●the wheels do not wobble (no run-out) and their bearings have no play,
●the wheel tyres, if your saw has them, are not worn or damaged,
●the blade does not wander back and forth on the wheel while running.

The blade is over-tensioned

rarely

An over-tensioned blade will crack sooner or later, at the weld or elsewhere, and fine cracks appear along its length. You can check whether a blade was over-tensioned with the flat-surface test.

Blade size Tension
13 × 0.65 mm 130–150 N/mm²
20 × 0.9 mm 160–180 N/mm²
27 × 0.9 mm 200–220 N/mm²
34 × 0.9 mm 240–250 N/mm²
41 × 1.3 mm 250–260 N/mm²
54 × 1.3 / 54 × 1.6 / 67 × 1.6 mm 260–280 N/mm²
80 × 1.6 mm 280–300 N/mm²

You can measure the exact tension with a tension gauge. It may not fit into small hobby saws, though, as it measures 131 × 100 mm. In that case, at least keep an eye on the tensioner's disc springs: they must not be fully compressed. Slacken the blade after work. You will find the full procedure in the article How to tension a band saw blade for metal.

The blade is too thick for the saw's wheels

very rarely

The smaller the wheels and the shorter the blade, the more sharply the blade bends on every revolution and twists between the wheel and the guides. This is typical of small saws that take a 1140 × 13 × 0.65 mm blade.

If blades keep cracking on a saw like this and the guides and tension are fine, try a thinner 13 × 0.5 mm blade. It bends more easily over small wheels and twists more easily into the guides. We make it in 8/12, 10/14 and 14/18 TPI; no coarser pitch is available in this thickness.

Tension a thinner blade less than a 0.65 mm one: the same force would put it under about a third more tension. And reduce the feed pressure, as a thinner blade deflects more.

You will find blades for this popular small saw in the article PARKSIDE metal bandsaw from Lidl.

Cracked weld

very rarely

We stand behind our welds: if a blade from us cracks at the weld, we will send you a new one. Find out how to recognise a good weld and make a claim in the article Bandsaw blade welding: quality welds and warranty.

Do blades from different manufacturers keep cracking on you? Then the cause is more likely the saw or its set-up than the weld.

Other problems

The blade is not cracking, but it cuts badly?

Stripped or quickly dulled teeth and crooked or rough cuts usually have a simple cause. For each cause, we show how often we see it:

very oftenoftensometimesrarelyvery rarely
Chipped and worn bandsaw blade teeth
Chipped and worn bandsaw blade teeth

Teeth are breaking off

very often
Too many or too few teeth in the cut
→ choose the pitch to suit the cross-section: about 12 teeth in the cut on solid material; on sections, a tooth spacing roughly equal to the wall thickness (choosing the pitch)
often
Feed pressure too high or blade speed too low
→ reduce the feed pressure and set the speed to suit the material (speed chart)
very rarely
The workpiece is not clamped firmly
→ clamp it in the vice so that it cannot move during the cut
very rarely
Teeth missing only near the weld

Teeth can also break off if a new blade has not been run in, if the coolant flow is too low, if the chip brush is not working, or if the cut starts on a sharp edge of the workpiece.

Crooked cut made with a bandsaw blade
Crooked cut made with a bandsaw blade

The cut is crooked

very often
The blade is dull
→ replace it with a new one
very often
The tooth pitch is too fine
→ choose larger teeth, i.e. a lower TPI (choosing the pitch)
sometimes
The new blade was not run in
→ always run in a new blade (running in the blade)
rarely
The guide arms are too far apart or out of line
→ move them as close to the workpiece as possible and line them up
rarely
Guide bearings or carbide inserts are damaged
→ replace them
rarely
Feed pressure too high or blade speed too low
→ reduce the feed pressure and increase the speed
very rarely
The workpiece is not clamped firmly
→ clamp it in the vice
very rarely
The blade is not tensioned enough
→ tighten it up (tension by blade size)

Teeth damaged on one side only will also pull the cut sideways. In that case, replace the blade and check the side guides.

Dull bandsaw blade teeth
Dull bandsaw blade teeth

Teeth go dull quickly

very often
Wrong tooth pitch
very often
Too little coolant or a badly mixed emulsion
→ check the flow and concentration: 5–7% for ordinary steel, at least 10% for stainless and hard steels (cooling the blade)
often
The blade runs too fast, or the feed pressure is too light and the teeth just rub, especially on stainless
→ set the speed to suit the material and increase the feed pressure (speed chart)
rarely
The new blade was not run in
very rarely
The chip brush is not working
→ clean or replace it, otherwise chips are carried back into the cut

A blade fitted the wrong way round goes dull straight away. The teeth must point in the direction the blade travels, into the material.

Rough cut made with a bandsaw blade
Rough cut made with a bandsaw blade

The cut is rough

often
Dull or damaged teeth
→ replace the blade
often
Blade speed too low and feed pressure too high
→ increase the speed and reduce the feed pressure
rarely
The new blade was not run in
rarely
The chip brush is not working and chips clog the gullets
→ clean or replace the brush
rarely
A mark on the cut surface once per blade revolution, where the weld passes

A blade that is not tensioned enough, or guide arms set far from the workpiece, will also leave a rough cut.

Reader questions

Frequently asked questions

?My blade cracks from the teeth, even though it is sharp and I cut gently. Why?

First check the guides: neither the side nor the back-up guides may pinch the blade. Then check the tension. On solid material, too fine a pitch can also be the problem: chips pack the gullets and the teeth take blows. On a small saw, a thinner 0.5 mm blade can also help.

?My saw has small wheels. Is that why my blade cracks?

It can be, but check the back edge first. If it is peened and sharp, the guides or the wheel flange are pressing on it. Lay the cracked blade on a flat surface: if the ends lift, it was over-tensioned or it is too thick for the saw's wheels. In that case, try a thinner blade.

?The blade drifts sideways on the wheels. What can I do?

Check that the wheels are in line once the blade is tensioned and are not tilted, for example because of a bent shaft or a badly seated wheel. A bent guide can also twist the blade. More details earlier in the article.

?Blades from different manufacturers keep cracking on me. Are the welds to blame?

If it keeps happening with blades of different brands, the cause usually lies in the saw, its set-up or the way you cut. Check the guides, tension, feed pressure and pitch and blade thickness.

Are your wood-cutting blades cracking? The causes and figures are different; you will find them in the article Why do bandsaw blades for wood break?

Didn't find your problem? Ask in the discussion below the article or email info@dudrsaw.eu. We will be glad to help.

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Our bandsaw blades for metal come in the EPIC GP, SBX, SiClone and XP series, welded to the length you need. Choose by size or go straight to your bandsaw model.

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Reinhard Klose
Germany – translated
Good day, I have a small metal band saw (1140x13x0.65 mm), which is offered by several vendors but under different names. The saw is characterized by a stable, rectangular cast aluminum base instead of the cheap sheet metal cover platform with rounded corners. The motor has 1.5 kW, soft start, and speed control 20-70 m/min. The transport rollers are rubber-coated, oiling is not permitted. It is used in the hobby sector for sawing everything from steel to V2A to aluminum, profiles to round material. Unfortunately, there are many band defects due to tearing, partly at the weld but also at other places. Numerous different band brands have already been installed. There are always band damages. The last 12 bands have always torn from the tooth side and then start to run unevenly, so that the impending band tear is already to be felt. On these 12 bands, however, there was never a weld crack. The bands are all still absolutely sharp, and sawing is done very sensitively without excessive pressure. The cold band can be touched immediately after cutting without problems. The impending band defect/tears can already be felt through uneven running and vertical oscillation in the band. The bands that have not yet torn have up to 16! tears of various depths. The last defect occurred after only 6-8 cuts. What is the cause: poor band quality or design flaws of the saw? I would be happy to receive new insights into this annoying and costly problem. BR - RKl
DUDRSAW
Germany – translated

Good day, thank you very much for your very detailed description of the problem.
Based on the damage pattern you described, we consider fundamentally poor quality of the Bandsägeblätter to be rather unlikely. In particular, the fact that the same problem repeats with bands from different manufacturers and that the last twelve bands did not tear at the weld, but the cracks always originated from the tooth side, points more to the cutting conditions or mechanical stress on the band by the machine.
We would check the following points in particular:
Tooth pitch / TPI: Your description lacks information on which tooth pitch you are using. If you use a very fine tooth pitch such as TPI 10/14 or 14/18, it can lead to filling of the gullets with chips, especially when sawing solid material. The tooth can then no longer effectively remove the chips, which can cause high impact loads and stresses in the area of the gullets during the next engagement. Cracks can subsequently originate from there.
A similar problem can also occur when sawing profiles, especially when cutting through the lower profile wall, if too many teeth are in engagement at the same time. As a guide, we recommend a tooth pitch where approximately 10 teeth are in the cut at the same time.
Band tension: Excessive band tension significantly increases the cyclical load on the Bandsägeblatt during each revolution over the wheels and can lead to fatigue cracks. With an already torn band, flatness can also be roughly checked. If the band lies freely on a flat surface and does not remain flat, twists significantly, or the ends stick out of the plane, this may indicate deformation of the band during operation. A possible cause is too high band tension, however, incorrect band guidance or faulty band run are also possible.
Alignment and condition of the wheels: Both wheels should be correctly aligned with each other, and the band should not be constantly corrected laterally during operation. Damaged or uneven running surfaces, play in the bearings, or an incorrect position of the band on the wheels can cause additional cyclical loads.
Band guidance: The side guide elements must not clamp the band too tightly. We also recommend checking the band body itself. If there are clear longitudinal grooves, shiny friction surfaces, or other contact marks on the sides, the guide elements may be worn, damaged, or set too tight. Damaged or over-tightened guides can contribute to the formation of micro-cracks and subsequent band breakage.
Twisting of the band: With such a short saw band, it is also important how much the band has to be twisted from leaving the wheel to the cutting position. If this happens over a very short distance, additional recurring stress is created on the band body. For a band with 13 x 0.65 mm, this stress on a small machine can be quite significant.
For this reason, we would recommend trying a thinner Bandsägeblatt with a band thickness of 0.50 mm for this machine. This can be bent more easily over small wheels and also handles the twisting between the wheel and band guide better.
Specifically, we would recommend the following band: EPIC GP 1140 x 13 x 0.50 mm – TPI 8/12
With a band thickness of 0.50 mm, we unfortunately cannot offer a coarser tooth pitch. TPI 8/12 is suitable, for example, for solid material up to a diameter of about 30 mm. For solid material with a diameter of about 50 mm, a coarser tooth pitch, for example TPI 6/10, would be better suited. However, this is only available with thicker saw bands.
We wish you much success. Best regards, Your Dudr Saw Team

Miroslav Svoboda
Czechia – translated
Why is the saw blade sliding?
SIMONDS
Czechia – translated

Good morning, thank you for your question. Unfortunately, we don't encounter this very often. I can only think that it might be because the wheels are not aligned (in axis) after tensioning the saw band or are slightly backwards, or some wheel has a wobble or is vertically at a different angle (e.g. due to a bent shaft or poor wheel seating). Or poor guidance in the guides, which overloads the saw band (they are warped). Thank you, regards Pavel Dudr

Otto Šubrt
Czechia – translated
Good day, I have a homemade metal cutting saw and I am satisfied with your blades, they are excellent. The problem is that the blade is still sharp and breaks, so it is likely due to the small 150mm wheels, but it lasts quite a long time and it's a shame to waste it, so I will order more, thank you and have a nice day.
SIMONDS
Czechia – translated

Good day, 150mm wheels are not necessarily very small for a metal bandsaw. If you have a band speed of 60-90 meters per minute, there won't be that many bends on the wheels. Also check if the band is not starting to break from the back side of the band. Usually, the back edge of the band is sharp - pressed by the guides or by the wheel hubs. Make sure that when the saw is turned off, you have a gap between the rear guides and the band of at least 0.5 - 1 mm, and the same from the wheel hubs. Or when you put paper between the band and the wheel, so that the paper passes through and is not torn between the band and the hub. Then, when you put the torn band on the ground, the ends of the band should remain on the ground. If they lift up (the band is stretched), it might be due to too much band tension or possibly the small wheels.

Good luck, Regards Pavel Dudr

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