Why do bandsaw blades for wood break? We know the answers

A bandsaw blade for wood most often cracks when it is over-tensioned, when it is too thick for the saw's wheels, or when it rests against the back bearing even when running idle. You can usually tell what caused a crack from where it starts. Our welds come with a warranty.

Where did the blade crack? Quick diagnosis

Look at where the crack starts. Its location usually reveals the cause.

Where a bandsaw blade cracks (from the back edge, at the weld, from a tooth) and the over-tension test on a cracked blade
Where a bandsaw blade cracks (from the back edge, at the weld, from a tooth) and the over-tension test on a cracked blade
1From the back edgeThe back bearing or guide presses on the blade even when running idle. → adjust the bearing
2At the weldOften a faulty weld, but it can also be over-tensioning or a blade at the end of its service life. → weld warranty claim
3From a toothWith sawmill blades, it may be caused by unsuitable sharpening or wheels out of line with the guides. → what to do
!Repeatedly, in different placesThe blade is most likely over-tensioned or too thick for the saw's wheels. → tension · thickness

Over-tension test: lay the cracked blade on a flat surface with its outer face down (the face that did not sit on the wheel). If it lies flat, the tension was fine. If the ends lift noticeably or the blade twists, it was over-tensioned – tension it less next time.

Most common causes of cracking and how to fix them

On a standard two-wheel saw, the blade bends around the wheels twice and straightens out twice on every revolution. Anything that puts extra stress on it shortens its service life. Here are the five main causes.

÷ 500
wheel diameter divided by 500 = maximum blade thickness
3 mm
it is enough if the tensioned blade deflects no more than 3 mm when pushed with a finger
0.5 mm
a thinner blade to try on a small saw if blades keep cracking
100–140
N/mm² – tension for woodworking blades (sawmill blades 170–210)

Tension

The blade is over-tensioned

An over-tensioned blade will most likely crack sooner or later – at the weld or elsewhere.

Check without a gauge

✓Machine switched off, cover open – measure on the side without guides.
✓The blade does not deflect sideways by more than 3 mm when pushed with a finger – that is enough, do not tighten it any further.
✓It sounds metallic when tapped.
✓The tensioning disc springs are not fully compressed.

After work

!Slacken the blade. Keeping it tensioned for long periods puts unnecessary strain on the blade, the wheels and the saw frame.
!You can measure the exact value with a tension gauge, but it may not fit into small saws.
Blade type Recommended tension
woodworking blades 100–140 N/mm²
sawmill blades 170–210 N/mm²

Example for a 32 × 0.9 mm sawmill blade: subtract the tooth height (about 7 mm) from the width, which leaves 25 mm. Tensioning force = 25 × 0.9 × 200 = 4,500 N (roughly 460 kg). You will find the full procedure in the article How to tension a bandsaw blade for wood.

Blade thickness

The blade is too thick for the saw's wheels

The smaller the wheels, the more sharply the blade bends on every revolution. The rule is simple:

wheel diameter ÷ 500 = maximum blade thickness
Wheel diameter 420 mm → 0.84 → choose a 0.8 mm blade. The other way round: multiply the blade thickness by 500 to get the smallest suitable wheel diameter.
0.36 mm
wheel from 180 mm
0.5 mm
wheel from 250 mm
0.65 mm
wheel from 325 mm
0.8 mm
wheel from 400 mm
0.9 mm
wheel from 450 mm
1.1 mm
wheel from 550 mm

This is a recommendation, not a prohibition – you can fit a thicker blade on the wheel, it will just be under more stress. If your blades keep cracking on a small saw, try a thinner one: 0.5 mm (we make it in widths of 6, 10 and 13 mm), or 6 × 0.36 mm. A thinner blade copes better with bending over a small wheel, but it is less rigid and wanders more easily in the cut. That is why, with a thin blade, you should choose the greatest width your work and your saw allow.

Bearing and guides

The back edge rests against the bearing or guide

If the blade rests against the back support bearing even when running idle, its back edge gets peened, hardens and eventually cracks. The cracks then start from the back edge.

What to adjust

1Set the back bearing so that the blade does not touch it when running idle.
2Set the side guides as close to the blade as possible, but without pressure. The guides must not touch the teeth.
3Tilt the upper wheel so that the base of the teeth runs on the centre of the wheel (on sawmills, by contrast, the teeth should overhang the edge of the wheel).
4The wheels must be in line with the guides.

Watch out for

!Pre-loading the blade with a grooved bearing (used when cutting tight radii) puts more stress on the back edge – the blade may crack from this side sooner.
→More details in the article Technical set-up of a bandsaw for wood.

Weld

Faulty weld

Does it keep cracking at the weld?

!Repeatedly and soon after fitting → most likely a bad weld.
?If there is no obvious defect on the blades, the cause may also lie in the saw, its set-up or the way you cut – check the tension, blade thickness and back bearing.

We describe how to recognise a quality weld, when the warranty covers it and how to make a claim for a cracked weld in the article Bandsaw blade welding: quality welds and warranty.

Service life

The blade is at the end of its service life

A worn blade with dull teeth will often crack due to material fatigue, sometimes even at the weld. This is not a defect but the natural end of its service life. You can extend it like this:

Do not force the cut

Feed pressure should be light and steady. If the blade will not cut that way, increase the blade speed, slow down the feed, choose a larger tooth or replace the blade with a sharp one.

Choose the speed to suit the job

Reduce the speed for fine work – this can extend the service life up to threefold. Rough cuts in soft and green wood need a higher speed so that the blade can clear the sawdust fast enough.

New blade, new cut

Do not use a new blade in an old cut.

How to prevent cracking

✓Choose the blade thickness according to the wheel diameter (diameter ÷ 500).
✓Tension with care: it is enough if the blade deflects no more than 3 mm when pushed with a finger – do not tighten it any further.
✓The back bearing does not touch the blade when running idle, and the guides support it without pressure.
✓Do not force the cut; replace a dull blade in good time.
✓After work, slacken the blade and clean it with a cloth or a soft brush, never with metal tools.
✓Store the blade in a dry place, coiled smoothly without sharp kinks and with the teeth covered.

You will find more tips in the article Principles of proper bandsaw blade maintenance.

Need a thinner or different blade?

We will weld it to measure for your saw. All you need is the size, or just the saw model.

Other problems with bandsaw blades for wood

The blade is not cracking, but it cuts badly? Rough or crooked cuts, burnt wood and a blade that dulls quickly usually have a simple cause.

fibers are tearing out
fibers are tearing out

The cut is rough and serrated, fibres are being torn out

tooth pitch is too large→ use smaller teeth (higher TPI), see choosing the tooth pitch
feed pressure into the cut is too high→ feed the material into the cut more slowly
the blade is dull→ replace it with a new one
band saw blade dulls quickly
band saw blade dulls quickly

The bandsaw blade becomes dull quickly

tooth pitch is too large→ use smaller teeth
unsuitable blade type→ choose a blade to suit the material you are cutting
wood is burning
wood is burning

Wood is burning

tooth pitch is too small→ use larger teeth (lower TPI)
the teeth are dull→ replace the blade
the teeth are clogged with glue or sawdust→ clean the blade with a solvent or replace it
blade speed is too high→ reduce the speed
band saw blade cuts crooked (wanders)
band saw blade cuts crooked (wanders)

Bandsaw blade cuts crooked (wanders)

tooth pitch is too small→ use larger teeth
the teeth are dull→ replace the blade
the blade is not tensioned enough→ increase the tension
the blade is too narrow→ use a wider blade
the blade is too thin (e.g. 0.36 mm)→ use a thicker one if your saw's wheels allow it
feed pressure into the cut is too high→ feed the material into the cut more slowly
the guides are set incorrectly→ set them so that they hold the blade firmly and at right angles to the cut

If the blade stops cutting after a few centimetres, the cause usually lies in the guides. A larger tooth (3 TPI) and the widest possible blade also help.

band saw blade teeth are reversed
band saw blade teeth are reversed

The bandsaw blade teeth are facing the wrong way

the blade was not flipped after welding, or your saw has a non-standard design→ flip the blade inside out (inner side outwards); wear gloves

FAQs about cracking blades

? Can a blade crack if I do not use dust extraction?

That is very unlikely. It could only happen if the saw were extremely clogged and the sawdust deformed the blade.

? What is the smallest wheel diameter a given blade thickness can handle?

Multiply the blade thickness by 500: a 0.65 mm blade needs a wheel diameter of at least 325 mm, a 0.5 mm blade at least 250 mm. You can use a thicker blade, it will just be under more stress as it passes over the wheel.

? How much should a sawmill blade be tensioned?

To 170–210 N/mm², in practice roughly 200 N/mm². Tension woodworking blades to 100–140 N/mm². You will find an example calculation above.

? My sawmill blade cracks from the teeth. What is causing it?

It is most likely not the back guide – the cracks would then start from the back edge. Check whether the wheels are in line with the guides. Unsuitable sharpening can also be the cause. We will be happy to advise you on sharpening and servicing sawmill blades – just write to us.

? My blades crack at the weld, even though they come from different suppliers.

If there is no obvious weld defect on the blades, the cause may also lie in the saw, its set-up or the way you cut. Go through the tension, blade thickness and back bearing. If you are not sure what to do, write to us.

Didn't find your problem?Ask in the discussion below the article or write to info@dudrsaw.eu – we will be glad to help.

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Hrvoje Malčić
Croatia – translated
Hello, I am interested if you have wood band saw blades, for Parkside? Better quality, so they don't tear, thank you in advance
DUDRSAW
Croatia – translated

Hello, I am attaching a link to Parkside wood saw blades

https://www.dudrsaw.eu/technical-articles-and-advice/blades-for-the-parkside-wood-band-saw-from-lidl

m.cvejkus
Slovakia – translated
Good day. What should I do when the saw band presses quite a lot on the back edge of the guide pulley at idle, and the band is almost tearing, starting from the tooth on the machine saw. Regards
SIMONDS
Slovakia – translated
Good day, if the saw band starts to tear from the tooth, the cause of the tearing will most likely not be the back guide (cracks would start from the back of the band). By tilting the wheel, you should reduce the pressure on the back guide, but also check if the wheels are aligned with the guides. Tearing can also be caused by poor grinding. Please try to contact Dudr Tools s.r.o., which deals with the complete service of bandsaws for logs. Martin Dvořák: +420 776 566 103
Josef Menoušek
Czechia – translated
Good day. Can I buy a rubber belt for the flywheel Prkside PBS 350A length 620 width 10-12 from you? Thank you M.
SIMONDS
Czechia – translated

Good day,
most saws require the flywheels to be re-rubbered.
For example, the company AGT in Zlín deals with the renovation of these wheels.

https://www.agtzlin.cz/pogumovani-obezneho-kola-na-pasovou-pilu-p320/

Sincerely,
Vojtěch Volf

Petr Tácha
Czechia – translated
Good afternoon, I have an inexpensive Scheppach Basa 1 230 V bandsaw. The blade breaks very often, always at the weld. I think I have everything set up correctly. I have used about 10 blades and I only cut about 1cm thick softwood. I had the blades from your competition in P ríbram. The original one broke even sooner. Used sizes 4, 6, 8, 10 teeth width 6mm, 10mm. What blade would you recommend, I will try ordering from you. Thank you
SIMONDS
Czechia – translated

Good afternoon, we would be happy if you try our saw blades. If the blades generally break on such a small bandsaw, we recommend a blade thickness of 0.5 mm due to the small wheels. These are blades of width: Flexback 1490x6x0.5 mm or Flexback 1490x10x0.5 mm. Choose the pitch according to the height of the wood being cut or whether you are cutting softwood or hardwood. If the blades break at the weld and too soon, it is more likely due to poor welds, so I would normally recommend a thickness of 0.65 mm, the blade is tougher and holds better in the cut. We have a larger selection there. These are widths: Flexback 1490x6x0.65 mm, Flexback 1490x8x0.65 mm, Flexback 1490x10x0.65 mm. Again, choose the pitch according to the cutting height you are cutting. If a blade from us breaks, you can complain about it to us by sending us a photo of the broken weld. We will assess the broken weld and usually send you a new one immediately. If there is still a problem with breaking at the weld, we would have to look for the cause in the machine itself, but we do not encounter problems with saw blades breaking at the weld on these bandsaws.

Thank you, good luck, regards Pavel Dudr

Miloš Hošták
Czechia – translated
Good day. Why is my saw band cracking approximately every fourth tooth even before the first grinding. Band dimensions 38 1.1 4650.
SIMONDS
Czechia – translated

Good day, there could be several reasons. We would need more information and to see the saw band, at least. It could have happened, for example, due to undercutting during production.

Please contact your colleague Martin Dvořák from the company Dudr Tools tel.: +420 776 566 103.

Thank you, Regards Pavel Dudr

Bořivoj Havlíček
Czechia – translated
Good afternoon, in the comments to this article, Mr. Kubíček asks about the tension of Ripper S saw blades, and you answer him that it is 20N per mm2, which for the given blade size is 450N (i.e., for me as a layman, a more understandable unit of about 45 kg). Since I am building a small log saw, I am carefully reading your technical articles. However, in the article about building a log saw, in the paragraph "How to choose and set up a saw blade?" point 5 "Blade tension" states - the saw blade should be tensioned to approximately 200 N per 1 mm2 of cross-section. Therefore, for the given example of 4500N (which is 10 times more), I am determining the size of the axes and bearings, and for the calculation, this discrepancy in values is fundamental. It is clear to me that one or the other figure is a typo, but which value is the correct one? Thank you very much, Havlíček
SIMONDS
Czechia – translated

Good afternoon, thank you for your comment. We apologize, there should definitely be more.

If you are going to use the RipperS PREMIUM saw blade intended for logs, expect a tension of 170-210 N/mm2.

Woodworking saw blades FlexBack are tensioned to 100-140 N/mm2.

Good luck, best regards, the Dudr Saw team.

Vojtěch Linhart
Czechia – translated
Hello, I would like to ask if a saw blade can break due to not using dust extraction? I have a small Einhell bandsaw.
SIMONDS
Czechia – translated

Hello, that is very unlikely.

Theoretically, it could happen if you had a very dirty saw - but it would have to be an extreme build-up of dirt that deforms the blade.

Přidal F.
Czechia – translated
Hello, I would like to know what is the minimum permissible diameter of the wheel with regard to the thickness of the saw band. Any clear table? Thank you
SIMONDS
Czechia – translated

Good day, there is no need for a table for that. It is "wheel diameter / 500".

But that is a recommendation, of course you can use thicker ones too, it's just that the band will be a bit more stressed when passing over the wheel.

S.Kolarik

Lubomír Kubíček
Czechia – translated
Hello I would be interested in the tension of Ripper S saw blades Thank you
SIMONDS
Czechia – translated

Hello, we recommend 200 N per mm2 of the saw blade's cross-section. For example, if you have Ripper 32x0.9, after subtracting the tooth height (about 7 mm), we get 25 x 0.9 x 200 = 4500 N/mm2.

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